You all are cracking me up. I'm sure I would not using the visual editor either. I don't even use templates xhtml when developing, I do 'Save As', copy/paste, find/search and use TextPad file editor when doing bulk xhtml file changes, and creating new xhtml files, etc...kukeltje wrote:+1000andyba wrote:I am going to give a Visual Editing feature a fat -1000 because you are -never- going to be able to run it WYSIWYG without running things on a server/browser. This is why god gave you "deploy on save" for web apps.
Use it, learn to love it, move on.
-1 'deploy on save'...honestly, I like that 'only' for xhtml files. I don't like my netbeans app doing a 'deploy on save' when making bean code changes, and when I startup netbeans, on production server, to deploy latest web app version. I have had to learn (the hard way) that I had to set glassfish cleanup switches to handle/prevent PermGen (which is obviously caused by deploy-on-save and testing the web app afterwards), such as follows:
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<jvm-options>-XX:MaxPermSize=384m</jvm-options>
<jvm-options>-XX:+UseConcMarkSweepGC</jvm-options>
<jvm-options>-XX:+CMSPermGenSweepingEnabled</jvm-options>
<jvm-options>-Xmx512m</jvm-options>
<jvm-options>-XX:+CMSClassUnloadingEnabled</jvm-options>
Agreed. If it helps new developers, then I'm all for these features.heisenberg wrote:I'm -1 for visual editor as well, visual editors are useless compared to "deploy on save" , "hot deploy". I can't really create a page with a visual editor. My experiences with them were all terrible. I usually drop at wrong place and bored of all dragging dropping, my hand starts to hurt later and the code they generate are usually wrong and not optimized.
I guess it is appealing for people who are new to web development.
Ready made page templates, ui generation from entities are much more useful than a visual editor. Frankly I wouldn't use visual editor if NetBeans comes with one, I'm quite productive with current features anyway.
Funny about your hand starting to hurt later (above)...smiling. Honestly, becoming a JSF/Primefaces web app developer, I have to obviously use my mouse to point-and-click UI components on web page, but I really wish I can use 'only' keyboard when navigating and using web apps. I am a keyboard user and would love it if I could 'never' use mouse. Umm, this is one reason why I'm not fan of Apple/Mac. Not trying to start anything/argument here, just being honest.